It’s so interesting because it’s the polar opposite to me, and to explore things like that was very foreign, but again, fascinating. And her confidence comes out sexually, and it’s quite therapeutic for her. So she’s not going inward for comfort, she’s finding comfort from external places. I think that she was touched by the way that she was brought up by her mother and she has a void within her that she fills with external things. My husband’s mom, my mother-in-law, worked in the sex industry and she shares her stories very openly, and I just always think about what that would be like if my mother-in-law had a daughter, and how her own life experience would have manifested into her daughter’s experience. I felt like she had a mother that was very absent, but she knew of her mother as an overly sexual individual. PALMER: Yeah, I had written this extensive backstory. Did you come up with some type of backstory for her of why she was bristling but also receptive? Like, what her previous experiences were? Like him touching her finger, those little touchy movements were very intensely felt. But it’s nice that I can actually share this interest, and there’s a huge movement of people also interested and actually finally admitting their fascination with the dark.Īt the beginning of the film I kept noticing that your character subtly pulled away but accepted intimacy. There’s an intrigue into the morbid I think because I’m afraid of it. You know, like you crank your head to look and see what’s going on. So I have kept that very close to my chest because I was somewhat ashamed of the fact that I was the person that would drive by the accident and look twice. And I have a few friends of mine, and we all go to this spiritual mama’s group, but on the side we are all into these “true crime” podcasts. They call people “murderinos” when you’re interested in it but you have a really great life and you’re bubbly-they especially find it funny when moms have this interest. It’s interesting because they’re comedians and it’s very darkly funny. There’s this podcast called My Favorite Murder which is these two comedians who get together and talk about their favorite true crime stories. PALMER: Yeah! There is actually a nickname given to people who are fascinated by these stories. I know I had spirals of research on my own that I wasn’t really talking about to people, and now it’s like this collective “oh, you’re interested in that messed-up thing as well?” You said you were interested in these stories at early age, and I think that actually speaks to why many of us are having obsessions with darker stories, like you said. With this one I loved the element of Stockholm Syndrome because I think that’s something brushed under the carpet more often than not. I was a true crime buff at the youngest age. I’ve always been drawn to documentaries since I was a little girl. Knowing more about it is therapeutic in a weird way. So because of that juxtaposition I’m really fascinated by it, but I’m equally terrified by it, and I think that diving in it makes me feel safer as a woman and a mother for some reason. I’m not really sure what the psychology is there, but for me, I’m interested in it because it’s such a juxtaposition to what is going on in my life with a newborn, as you can see. If you look at the explosion of documentaries like Making a Murderer and The Keepers, now on Netflix, there seems to be a movement towards exploring the darker sides of ourselves. TERESA PALMER: Yeah, I’m noticing in general that there is a fascination with darker stories.
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